Sujet: Re: Batman v superman : Dawn of Justice Lun 21 Mar - 21:33
spoilers. Adore le film. Il pense que le film corrige pas mal le tir sur Man of Steel.
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Sujet: Re: Batman v superman : Dawn of Justice Lun 21 Mar - 22:38
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Sujet: Re: Batman v superman : Dawn of Justice Lun 21 Mar - 22:49
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Sujet: Re: Batman v superman : Dawn of Justice Lun 21 Mar - 23:16
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I've seen it guys! Ask questions away but no spoilers!
Impressions:
- This is a far far better movie than MoS in every conceivable way...as a movie. As a movie: characters, story, themes, ideas etc everything Terrio was talking about in his WSJ are all there if you're looking for it and all cohesively executed in a satisfactory manner. It's not as campy as I wanted but it is far less dark/joyless as some would be led to be believed. "Overwrought" is how I would describe it. Like the theatrical cut of Fellowship of the Ring. There is humor, far more than I was expecting but it felt like the wit from Terrio's ARGO not necessarily the comedy of most other comic films. You can feel which lines were Terrio's and probably guesstimate which were Snyder/Goyer. The key is that structurally the movie is sound and it has the fundamentals of story and character at functional levels and that's really what was needed.
- As a DC adaptation: the arguing will not stop. That being said in some ways this is the Superman that the MoS marketing promised and not what that movie delivered BUT there are certain choices (which are organic to the character and story btw) that I think will still irritate many fans albeit much less than MoS. Ben Affleck as Bruce Wayne/Batman is a revelation, I can't believe there was any doubt about this.
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Is he a killer? It's hard to say, they do the Arkham game thing where we know Batman has a no kill rule (it's mentioned)
but the action and violence is "action movie rules" so I guess we're meant to suspend our disbelief at some points which is easy to do this time because Snyder goes full Comic Book Fantasy world in this. Gal Gadot is great as Wonder Woman, and she definitely has more of an integral plot role in BvS than say Black Widow in Iron Man 2, that being said I wouldn't say she's the 3rd lead or anything. She definitely stole every scene she was in and she is absolutely true to the WW of the Rucka and Simone eras (Snyder and Fong wisely avoid cheesecake shots too). Honestly...the Knightmare sequences were my least favorite parts of the movie, they felt intrusive even though they tied in organically the the rest of the movie as a whole, I don't think they were necessary. I like this Lex Luthor, Eisenberg's best performance since THE DOUBLE but I have a feeling I'll be in the minority on that one...he's not quite how I imagine comics fans would like.
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The Flash cameo is the only one that felt organic, the others I could have done without.
Also, while Superman may have improved a bit, don't go into this movie expecting to finally like the Kents. Lois and WW are MVP though, I think fans of them should be very happy. Doomsday? Looks better than the trailers but still not...quite finished. The ending while earned this time will still be a talking point but I can say I'm very much looking forward to JL and the future solo movies.
I would like to say more but I'm not sure how much I SHOULD say since for all intents and purposes I wasn't supposed to see this movie until tonight. All I can say is that I stand by my opinion that Man of Steel is a D- minus grade movie. I think BvS is a solid B-/B and I think that's what the DCEU needs right now.
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Sujet: Re: Batman v superman : Dawn of Justice Lun 21 Mar - 23:19
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Last night, I had the opportunity go to the NYC premiere of Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice, and thought some would appreciate some early feedback for the movie. I saw another review on here and would be happy to offer another perspective. Proof: http://www.imgur.com/a/3f8da The Good Despite serious concerns going in, I'd say that the most impressive success of the movie was the believability in the action between Batman and Superman. I fully expected to roll my eyes, saying "Oh come on...how can he stand up against a GOD?!" but they nailed it. As we know from the trailer, they actually addressed the ridiculous amount of carnage that inevitably resulted from the first movie. Ben Affleck definitely quashed any concerns we may have had for ability to play the Dark Knight...see below for the film's shortcomings in Bruce Wayne, however... Wonder Woman was a bad ass and got me excited to see her in action down the road (not so great out of superhero mode, though) They took a huge risk in the final act that many other superhero movies would be too afraid to attempt and it definitely was effective (without giving too much away) Get hyped for Justice League and future DC properties We got to see some awesome Bat gadgets (GRAPPLING HOOK!!) The fight sequences were definitely in the better half of all comic book movies as of late Alfred was awesome. I love Jeremy Irons' completely different portrayal from previous versions of the character The Bad They completely ignored the Bruce Wayne half of Batman's character. You cast Ben Affleck, who screams billionaire playboy persona, and don't let him do his thing?! Despite a relatively straightforward plot, it seemed a bit all over the place at times. I think it was in need of editing... They didn't waste our time with Batman's backstory outside of a quick montage, thankfully. However, it was a bit heavy-handed with the "he's tormented by his past" references. This specifically was annoying in the final battle. Amy Adams' boobs just out of frame in several shots Verdict As a follow-up to a (in my opinion) lackluster Man of Steel, it was definitely an improvement. As a comparison to similar Batman properties (Burton/Nolan), it falls short. It's not going to go down as one of the best superhero movies ever, but it's definitely worth a watch. It seems to fall victim to the world-building "get ready for the next one" trait that befalls other superhero franchises towards the end, but only slightly. It's a lot of fun and packed with references that will make comic book fans beam. To draw a comparison that many others inevitably will, if you liked Man of Steel, you will love Batman v Superman; if you didn't, you will at least enjoy yourself.
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Sujet: Re: Batman v superman : Dawn of Justice Mar 22 Mar - 1:02
SuperFlay a écrit:
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Last night, I had the opportunity go to the NYC premiere of Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice, and thought some would appreciate some early feedback for the movie. I saw another review on here and would be happy to offer another perspective. Proof: http://www.imgur.com/a/3f8da The Good Despite serious concerns going in, I'd say that the most impressive success of the movie was the believability in the action between Batman and Superman. I fully expected to roll my eyes, saying "Oh come on...how can he stand up against a GOD?!" but they nailed it. As we know from the trailer, they actually addressed the ridiculous amount of carnage that inevitably resulted from the first movie. Ben Affleck definitely quashed any concerns we may have had for ability to play the Dark Knight...see below for the film's shortcomings in Bruce Wayne, however... Wonder Woman was a bad ass and got me excited to see her in action down the road (not so great out of superhero mode, though) They took a huge risk in the final act that many other superhero movies would be too afraid to attempt and it definitely was effective (without giving too much away) Get hyped for Justice League and future DC properties We got to see some awesome Bat gadgets (GRAPPLING HOOK!!) The fight sequences were definitely in the better half of all comic book movies as of late Alfred was awesome. I love Jeremy Irons' completely different portrayal from previous versions of the character The Bad They completely ignored the Bruce Wayne half of Batman's character. You cast Ben Affleck, who screams billionaire playboy persona, and don't let him do his thing?! Despite a relatively straightforward plot, it seemed a bit all over the place at times. I think it was in need of editing... They didn't waste our time with Batman's backstory outside of a quick montage, thankfully. However, it was a bit heavy-handed with the "he's tormented by his past" references. This specifically was annoying in the final battle. Amy Adams' boobs just out of frame in several shots Verdict As a follow-up to a (in my opinion) lackluster Man of Steel, it was definitely an improvement. As a comparison to similar Batman properties (Burton/Nolan), it falls short. It's not going to go down as one of the best superhero movies ever, but it's definitely worth a watch. It seems to fall victim to the world-building "get ready for the next one" trait that befalls other superhero franchises towards the end, but only slightly. It's a lot of fun and packed with references that will make comic book fans beam. To draw a comparison that many others inevitably will, if you liked Man of Steel, you will love Batman v Superman; if you didn't, you will at least enjoy yourself.
Just to add some perspective, the Reddit reviewer we're currently talking about listed off other scores he gave for other CBMs:
Winter Soldier: 7/10 Guardians: 8/10 DOFP: 8/10 Deadpool: 6/10 (Blasphemy! I know...it was hilarious, but I wanted more) Age of Ultron: 5/10
He says he's harsh on movies and it looks like he means it. That said the mixed/good-ish reviews I've seen all seem to have similar complaints regarding issue with the story. Like pacing, shifts in tone, that sort of thing. I think critics will be harsh on the movie. So it's close to Winter Soldier. That's good. I preferred that to Guardians, though I liked both. Ultron and Deadpool are treated harshly.
So 6.5 is pretty solid
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Sujet: Re: Batman v superman : Dawn of Justice Mar 22 Mar - 8:46
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Frank Kemp @FrankKemp3 17m17 minutes ago I keep looking on twitter and I just don't know how people are raving about #BatmanvSuperman did I not see it? Are people blind? It was bad Quote: Capn' Chronic @MixtapeMessiah 20m20 minutes ago Well almost 3 hrs later after #BatmanvSuperman and i still have a million questions running though my mind. Greatest Superhero movie Yet. Quote: Wayward Son @StrongStarter 36m36 minutes ago Sandy, UT The only thing I'll say about Batman Vs Superman is that it may have the greatest live action interpretation of Batman. You go Ben Affleck Quote: Clark Graves @ClarkGraves 19m19 minutes ago Wow #BatmanvSuperman was amazing, words can not describe how utterly mind blowing this film is... @DCComics thank you for this movie. Quote: LOOCHIE DaWhiteGirl @deadhookr 3m3 minutes ago Burbank, CA BATMAN V SUPERMAN WAS INSANE! Quote: Mikey O'Leary @MichaelROLeary 3h3 hours ago After seeing #BatmanvSuperman I've got two words: Wonder Woman.
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Sujet: Re: Batman v superman : Dawn of Justice Mar 22 Mar - 8:48
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Wanderlust Trey @terrance_may 2m2 minutes ago Batman v Superman was like a 98/100 first viewing but like there's SO many hints at other movies. Quote: Dillon Borrego @BorregoDillon 5m5 minutes ago Batman V Superman was exactly what I wanted it to be. 2 and a half hours of pure badassery Quote: armando @armzmxz 2m2 minutes ago I liked #BatmanvSuperman. It exceeded my expectations, but then again my expectations were low because of Man of Steel. Quote: Air-ick @KmsAirwick 2m2 minutes ago I'm really depressed to say I didn't like batman v superman much. I'm still gonna give it a second watch, but over all the jam packed stuff Quote: A.C. MacKenzie @ACMacKenZ 4m4 minutes ago One of the most anticipated sequences in #BatmanVSuperman is also one of its worst.
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Sujet: Re: Batman v superman : Dawn of Justice Mar 22 Mar - 8:49
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Superman81 @ManOfSteel37013 53s53 seconds ago Best humor in BvS to me came from Fishburne and Irons but a line from Diane Lane got huge laughs from my audience.
Superman81 @ManOfSteel37013 1h1 hour ago 9.5/10 and no lie Gal Gadot was so awesome! I wish I could tell you how awesome but you gotta see it
Quote: Marlon Ren @MarlonAguilar32 2m2 minutes ago The biggest mistake you will make in your life is not buying a #BatmanvSuperman ticket Quote: CG @CarlosG_2718 6m6 minutes ago Batman V Superman was amazing!!!! Everyone go watch it!!! #BatmanvSuperman #LexLuthor Quote: @Hammadayf 22s22 seconds ago Ben Affleck is the best batman ever. He trumps even Michael Keaton
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Sujet: Re: Batman v superman : Dawn of Justice Mar 22 Mar - 8:51
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Marvel doesn't have anything to worry about. Sorry DC Fan boys.
Sujet: Re: Batman v superman : Dawn of Justice Mar 22 Mar - 8:52
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DA GAWD @BStapIes 16m16 minutes ago Just seen BvS. Give it an 8. Definitely some **** in there that didn't make sense/shouldn't have been there.
Quote: Dan @DMaldonado08 17m17 minutes ago You can see how much @ZackSnyder has grown as a director in @BatmanvSuperman. Been a fan since 300 and BvS is by far his best work. Perfect.
Quote: Sierra Wilkinson @SportsTG 15m15 minutes ago Just saw a screening of BvS and its horrible. I urge you to see it at a discount if u see it. #BatmanvSuperman
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Sujet: Re: Batman v superman : Dawn of Justice Mar 22 Mar - 8:53
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Sierra Wilkinson @SportsTG Reading all the #BatmanvSuperman tweets makes me think WB has a lot of Twitter accounts. I give it a 4/10. Bad Voir la traduction
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Sujet: Re: Batman v superman : Dawn of Justice Mar 22 Mar - 8:54
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michael bay faq @Tupacca 35m35 minutes ago once you get over the fact that zack snyder misunderstands superman AND batman on a fundamental level bvs is a good, entertaining movie Quote: Tev @Johnte_Tyre 36m36 minutes ago There are some issues with BVS tho but those are spoilers & I won't get into those. Quote: Jay - Indie Revolver @IndieRevolver 37m37 minutes ago BvS totally unraveled in the last act. It wasn't strong up until that point either. Quote: Thomas Williams @TheGr8tThomasio 34m34 minutes ago So yeah. Batman and DC comic fans rejoice!!! They got it right!!! Here's to the DC Cinematic Universe. So hyped for Justice League. #BvS Quote: frobenius @FrancRob24 33m33 minutes ago BvS is so badass!!!!!! Go watch it!!!! Way better than Man of Steel! Quote: Bobby Brake @BobbyBrake 52m52 minutes ago Just saw #BatmanvSuperman. Can't wait for everyone else to see
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Sujet: Re: Batman v superman : Dawn of Justice Mar 22 Mar - 8:58
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Brian V @ThisIsNotBrian 1m1 minute ago Just got out of a screening of "Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice" - my initial spoiler free reaction: The final hour was immensely...
Brian V @ThisIsNotBrian 46s46 seconds ago ...entertaining & Gadot as Wonder Woman stole the show...
Brian V @ThisIsNotBrian 1m1 minute ago ...Still not a fan of the Zack Snyder style, but overall the film was better than I expected.
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Sujet: Re: Batman v superman : Dawn of Justice Mar 22 Mar - 8:58
https://www.periscope.tv/w/1RDGlbzLaZmxL
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Sujet: Re: Batman v superman : Dawn of Justice Mar 22 Mar - 9:03
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https://twitter.com/LaurenGallaway/s...80430548639744 Quote: *Lauren Gallaway* @LaurenGallaway @BittrScrptReadr I am completely blown away https://twitter.com/LaurenGallaway/s...79152464551937 Quote: *Lauren Gallaway* @LaurenGallaway OH. MY. GOD. �� #BatmanvSuperman https://twitter.com/LaurenGallaway/s...82005203603456 Quote: *Lauren Gallaway* @LaurenGallaway Thoroughly impressed w/ what Snyder & Goyer pulled off. #BatmanVSuperman
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