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ManBat92 Utilisateur
Messages : 574 Date d'inscription : 11/12/2009 Localisation : 92
| Sujet: Re: The Dark knight Rises de Christopher Nolan Jeu 14 Oct - 19:28 | |
| Je suis hyper content pour Tom Hardy , il a été pour moi une vrai découverte dans inception. Il a vraiment le potentiel pour faire un bad guy de la même trempe que Heath Ledger. | |
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zoonami Utilisateur
Messages : 205 Date d'inscription : 17/07/2010
| Sujet: Re: The Dark knight Rises de Christopher Nolan Jeu 14 Oct - 19:33 | |
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- Ca part pas plus dans tous les sens que depuis deux ans niveau spéculation et rumeurs messieurs. Les choses avancent en avant zoonami, le reste, c'est 90 de prct de net.
C'est sur il y a deux qu'il y a deux ans on lisait un peu tous et n'importe quoi (surtout sur dvdrama ) mais là il y a vraiment du concret et c'est cool. Vivement que le tournage commence... | |
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Tayelore Admin
Messages : 61203 Date d'inscription : 23/06/2008
| Sujet: Re: The Dark knight Rises de Christopher Nolan Ven 15 Oct - 10:02 | |
| Who Will the Batman 3 Villain Be?
http://movies.ign.com/articles/112/1128133p1.html - Spoiler:
Let's get the obvious one out of the way first. It seems as though everyone assumes that Nolan and his writers [URL="Jonathan]http://stars.ign.com/objects/915/915180.html"]Jonathan Nolan[/URL] and [URL="David]http://stars.ign.com/objects/913/913943.html"]David Goyer[/URL] are going to choose from the most popular members of Batman's rogues gallery for this next film. So after the Joker and Two-Face, who of course were in the last film, who's the best known? The Riddler is certainly up there, and he also seems a better fit than, say, the equally well-known Penguin. And yet… why are we assuming that Nolan is going to go with a bad guy who even your grandma can identify? The director utilized Ra's al Ghul in [URL="Batman]http://movies.ign.com/objects/498/498571.html"]Batman Begins[/URL], far from a known quantity in the mainstream, so who's to say that the rather obvious and pedestrian choice of the Riddler will happen for this next film? Having said that, if Hardy does turn out to be playing Edward Nigma, we can expect the character be a darker and more realistic variation on Frank Gorshin's beloved puzzle-master. We're thinking the version seen in Hush, a genius in his own right. Certainly we know that Hardy can play a good villain -- say what you will about Star Trek: Nemesis, but his turn as Shinzon was pretty creepy.
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Nolan has said that the villain of the film may not be a "name," and Professor Hugo Strange would sure fit that bill. Given the filmmaker's interest in the psychological side of superheroing, not to mention how Strange has worked with mobsters and crooked politicians in the comics -- themes that are endemic to Nolan's bat-universe -- this character could fit very well into the tapestry that Nolan has created. In the modern continuity, Strange is a psychologist who was hired to help apprehend Batman -- which could tie into the Caped Crusader's fugitive-from-the-law arc that began at the end of The Dark Knight. He also manages to discover Batman's secret identity, again tying into an aspect of Bruce Wayne which seems to deeply interest Nolan (the dual persona of the man). The character will also show up in the eagerly awaited Batman: Arkham City game, which will make him more recognizable to the casual fan too.
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Here's a character who once attempted to replace Batman as the protector of the streets, though he was ultimately thwarted when it was revealed that he was actually angling to take over the Gotham criminal world. Also known as Floyd Lawton, Deadshot is a ruthless assassin and sometime member of the Suicide Squad, the DC universe's version of the Dirty Dozen (only dirtier and with super powers). He's a no-joke kind of villain, ruthless and deadly, and about as far from the Burton/Schumacher bat-films as you can get. Which is surely where Nolan likes to be. Plus, we know from Inception that Tom Hardy is really good with big guns.
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Also known as Roman Sionis, Black Mask serves as a sort of parallel Bruce Wayne -- born into money, but disfigured and insane, he turned to a life of crime. That would include, at one time, abducting members of the Wayne Enterprises board (Lucius Fox, anyone?). He's sort of the bridge between mobsters and supervillains that would help keep Nolan's film grounded. Black Mask also has had a history with Catwoman, who rumor has it will also be in the film. Word on the street -- and take this for what's it's worth at this early stage -- is that as Batman recedes into inactivity in the wake of The Dark Knight, the Catwoman rises to battle the criminals who remain in his wake. Now in the comics, Black Mask went after Catwoman's family for her interference in his plans and -- get this -- killed her brother-in-law and made her sister eat her husband's remains.
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As is often the case with Batman's foes, Calendar Man is fixated on a particular topic of interest -- in this case, dates. Often portrayed as being of the smalltime caliber of crook, the exception to this rule came in the excellent Batman: The Long Halloween, where he was a much more nefarious sort. As Batman hunts a serial killer down, Calendar Man advises the hero from Arkham Asylum, playing his own game of cat and mouse with Bats along the way. We saw Batman fight the Joker in a battle of wits in The Dark Knight, when the Clown Prince of Crime was in police custody and Batman interrogated him. Using Calendar Man in Batman 3 in a manner similar to how he is portrayed in The Long Halloween could let Nolan take this concept and run with it… though hopefully Multiple Miggs won't be around to throw anything at Batman.
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In the comics these days, Dick Grayson is Batman and Bruce Wayne… isn't (long story). But this isn't the first time that Bruce has let the mantle of the bat fall to someone else. Back in the early 1990s, after the villain Bane broke Batman's back, Bruce had no choice but to appoint a new Dark Knight -- the hero formerly known as Azrael. All gussied up in a technologically enhanced suit of bat-armor, this character became the new Batman… until he went off the rails (people got killed and whatnot!) and Bruce was forced to reclaim the gig for himself. This could track with the basic premise we've heard about [URL="Batman]http://movies.ign.com/objects/961/961205.html"]Batman 3[/URL], as mentioned above. If Batman gives up on crime-fighting early in the film, perhaps he appoints a new Bat. Or maybe a new hero simply rises from the crime-ridden streets of Gotham to fill the void left by the true Batman's departure. Either way, a [URL="Tom]http://stars.ign.com/objects/917/917149.html"]Tom Hardy[/URL] high-tech Azrael/Batman versus a [URL="Christian]http://stars.ign.com/objects/913/913820.html"]Christian Bale[/URL] old-school Batman could be pretty sweet… and it would also be a topic of interest for Nolan with the whole "how far is too far to protect Gotham" argument.
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Speaking of which, Hardy might also make for a good Bane. The character, so terribly mis-portrayed in the hateful Batman & Robin, can actually be pretty scary. A monstrous, 'roided-up killer, Bane's physicality isn't too far off from Tom Hardy's character's in the violent Bronson. Also, there's pretty much no chance of Uma Thurman showing up in Batman 3 to boss Bane around.
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Like Black Mask, Hush -- a.k.a. Dr. Thomas Elliot -- goes back a long ways with Bruce Wayne. A childhood friend of Bruce's, Elliot grows up resenting Bruce and the Wayne family because Bruce's dad saved Elliot's mom's life. (Again, long story.) This leads to his taking on the persona of Hush and going after the Bat. This is another character that serves as a parallel for Batman -- rich, highly intelligent, skilled, and generally just good at everything. Except for being a good guy, that is, and therein lies the rub.
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Now wait, don't laugh. Obviously we're not expecting Nolan to give us a Burgess Meredith style Penguin, quacking about in a tuxedo and with an umbrella. But the character, one of the best known of Batman's enemies, can be handled in a more mature, less laughable way. Just look at the "No Man's Land" storyline from the comics, where the Penguin -- Oswald Cobblepot (might have to modify that name too) -- is a businessman with ties to the criminal underworld. Better if he's not called "the Penguin" at all in the film, or at least not in his presence, but certainly we'd know that this is who Hardy is meant to be.
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Another potentially outlandish character, Clayface can be done in a more sophisticated and realistic manner. Typically in the comics the Clayfaces (there have been several of them) are shapeshifters, and obviously that's never going to happen in a Nolan bat-movie. So how to portray him? Well, first you cast an ace actor, which is what has already happened with Hardy. Then you play up the "man of a thousand faces" aspect of the character rather than the clay thing. In fact, Hardy already played Eames, the Forger, in Inception -- a character who assumes the forms of others. Clayface has also been depicted in a sympathetic light at times, which would be an interesting way to go with the villain of the new film (think Harvey Dent from [URL="The]http://movies.ign.com/objects/752/752133.html"]The Dark Knight[/URL]), only he'd be the antagonist for more than the last 15 minutes. Merci à rashad | |
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Gizmo Utilisateur
Messages : 2178 Date d'inscription : 07/12/2009 Localisation : Gallifrey
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Tayelore Admin
Messages : 61203 Date d'inscription : 23/06/2008
| Sujet: Re: The Dark knight Rises de Christopher Nolan Ven 15 Oct - 17:21 | |
| Ben, surement! d'ailleurs tu penses pas que ca en est déja le trip ho ho hooo on laisse filtrer qui est l'acteur, mais vous saurez pas qui est le méchantt, take a guess | |
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Gizmo Utilisateur
Messages : 2178 Date d'inscription : 07/12/2009 Localisation : Gallifrey
| Sujet: Re: The Dark knight Rises de Christopher Nolan Ven 15 Oct - 18:51 | |
| En quelque sorte Ce film nous fait déjà mindfucker | |
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Chanandler Bong Utilisateur
Messages : 6767 Date d'inscription : 02/05/2010 Localisation : au bar, en train de se taper une vodka martini !
| Sujet: Re: The Dark knight Rises de Christopher Nolan Ven 15 Oct - 20:08 | |
| mindfuuuuuuuuck | |
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Tayelore Admin
Messages : 61203 Date d'inscription : 23/06/2008
| Sujet: Re: The Dark knight Rises de Christopher Nolan Sam 16 Oct - 0:09 | |
| Ca va etre trés amusant, si ils réussissent à ce que rien ne filtre sur qui joue quoi jusqu'à une bande annonce | |
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zoonami Utilisateur
Messages : 205 Date d'inscription : 17/07/2010
| Sujet: Re: The Dark knight Rises de Christopher Nolan Sam 16 Oct - 12:17 | |
| Ce serait une bonne idée, révéler l'identité des vilains lors d'un teaser qui serait pourquoi pas diffusé au Comic Con ?! | |
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Tayelore Admin
Messages : 61203 Date d'inscription : 23/06/2008
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Chanandler Bong Utilisateur
Messages : 6767 Date d'inscription : 02/05/2010 Localisation : au bar, en train de se taper une vodka martini !
| Sujet: Re: The Dark knight Rises de Christopher Nolan Sam 16 Oct - 12:47 | |
| ca risque d'etre ca en plus | |
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Tayelore Admin
Messages : 61203 Date d'inscription : 23/06/2008
| Sujet: Re: The Dark knight Rises de Christopher Nolan Sam 16 Oct - 13:13 | |
| Le conscensus sur les forums Américains semble etre que Hardy est Black Mask.. | |
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Magic Utilisateur
Messages : 3700 Date d'inscription : 05/01/2010 Localisation : Arkham
| Sujet: Re: The Dark knight Rises de Christopher Nolan Sam 16 Oct - 13:29 | |
| Je suis content que ca bouge enfon cette histoire de Batman 3 bon choix pour Hardy | |
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zoonami Utilisateur
Messages : 205 Date d'inscription : 17/07/2010
| Sujet: Re: The Dark knight Rises de Christopher Nolan Sam 16 Oct - 13:30 | |
| Je pense même que rien qu'un petit teaser sans image éclipserait les annonces Marvel où autres... - Citation :
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Le conscensus sur les forums Américains semble etre que Hardy est Black Mask..
Je le vois bien dans ce rôle en plus mais après faut attendre la confirmation... | |
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Gizmo Utilisateur
Messages : 2178 Date d'inscription : 07/12/2009 Localisation : Gallifrey
| Sujet: Re: The Dark knight Rises de Christopher Nolan Sam 16 Oct - 13:45 | |
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Tayelore Admin
Messages : 61203 Date d'inscription : 23/06/2008
| Sujet: Re: The Dark knight Rises de Christopher Nolan Sam 16 Oct - 13:49 | |
| Ah on les reconnait les fanboys qui tapent sur marvel à la premiere occase, ah c'est du beau (bon c'est sur que les news en ce moment vont dans le sens de dc, moi je dis ça ) | |
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Gizmo Utilisateur
Messages : 2178 Date d'inscription : 07/12/2009 Localisation : Gallifrey
| Sujet: Re: The Dark knight Rises de Christopher Nolan Sam 16 Oct - 14:01 | |
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zoonami Utilisateur
Messages : 205 Date d'inscription : 17/07/2010
| Sujet: Re: The Dark knight Rises de Christopher Nolan Sam 16 Oct - 14:11 | |
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Comme le gros event TDK qu'il y a eu au Comic-con de 2007 qui a vidé la conférence sur Iron Man avec Jon Favreau
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- Ah on les reconnait les fanboys qui tapent sur marvel à la premiere occase, ah c'est du beau
(bon c'est sur que les news en ce moment vont dans le sens de dc, moi je dis ça )
Juste fan de la chauve souris ! et j'aime bien Marvel, enfin quelques personnages... | |
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Tayelore Admin
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Tonisme Utilisateur
Messages : 1560 Date d'inscription : 02/01/2010
| Sujet: Re: The Dark knight Rises de Christopher Nolan Sam 16 Oct - 18:59 | |
| Mais c'est bon tout ça, génial pour Tom Hardy Ca y est la machine est lancée, c'est chaud bouillant comme une baraque à frites, dis donc | |
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lepinpin Modérateur
Messages : 1557 Date d'inscription : 07/12/2009 Localisation : Spartaaaa!!!!
| Sujet: Re: The Dark knight Rises de Christopher Nolan Sam 16 Oct - 19:39 | |
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Comme le gros event TDK qu'il y a eu au Comic-con de 2007 qui a vidé la conférence sur Iron Man avec Jon Favreau Laughing ah ça je savais pas!c'est énorme!!!surtout que franchement,le teaser de TDK ne montrait vraiment absolument rien. sinon,s'ils arrivent à faire en sorte que rien ne filtre jusqu'au trailer,ils sont vraiment balèzes.mais j'en doute.y a toujours une fuite d'un mec près à flinguer sa carrière pour faire l'exclu (cf INDY 4).pour TDK ils avaient fait en sorte que les tournage en ville soient masqués par une fausse identité,un pseudo film.mais les gens n'ont pas tous été dupes.et j'espère qu'il y aura quelques fuites quand même.mais pas trop! | |
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JKKS Utilisateur
Messages : 5444 Date d'inscription : 11/12/2009 Localisation : Malibu
| Sujet: Re: The Dark knight Rises de Christopher Nolan Sam 16 Oct - 22:57 | |
| - Gizmo a écrit:
- les costumes fidèles de Cap' et de Thor
A priori ils semblent au contraire regretter un manque de fidélité dans les deux cas (et c'est encore plus prononcé pour celui de cap' il me semble). En tous cas pour ce qui est des forums du hype. Il y a même eu quelques discussions assez violentes sur le sujet. | |
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Gizmo Utilisateur
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Tayelore Admin
Messages : 61203 Date d'inscription : 23/06/2008
| Sujet: Re: The Dark knight Rises de Christopher Nolan Mar 19 Oct - 19:16 | |
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- Meanwhile, Mr Hardy was just recently announced as being cast in the new Batman film, as well. While he wouldn't say what his role will be, he did say that it is a major one - with rumors indicating the part being that of a villain.
http://foreign.peacefmonline.com/entertainment/201010/94439.php Merci à miranda fox. | |
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Chanandler Bong Utilisateur
Messages : 6767 Date d'inscription : 02/05/2010 Localisation : au bar, en train de se taper une vodka martini !
| Sujet: Re: The Dark knight Rises de Christopher Nolan Mar 19 Oct - 19:53 | |
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