Sujet: Re: The Hobbit de de Peter Jackson Sam 1 Déc - 18:35
Qu'est-ce que c'est que ce trailer ? C'est réel ou c'est un (très bon) fake ?
Je pense que c'est un fake logiquement, mais les images du dragon...
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Sujet: Re: The Hobbit de de Peter Jackson Sam 1 Déc - 19:17
C'est un vieux fake ça
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Sujet: Re: The Hobbit de de Peter Jackson Sam 1 Déc - 19:32
Ok, je me demandais.
En tout cas, vraiment hâte de voir le film !
PS: D'ailleurs, entre Le Hobbit et les films de Berserk, on est servi en heroic fantasy de très grande qualité cette année !
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Sujet: Re: The Hobbit de de Peter Jackson Sam 1 Déc - 19:33
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ais tout n'est pas rose en Terre du Milieu et le journaliste lâche le nom qui va tous nous mettre en alerte : Jar Jar Binks. Oh, mon dieu ! "Comme dans tout voyage inattendu, il y a quelques écueils sur le chemin. le plus notable est une intrigue secondaire qui implique un magicien du nom de Radagast the Brown (Sylvester McCoy), dont la bouffonnerie nous emmène parfois dans les abîmes du territoire de Jar Jar Binks."
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Sujet: Re: The Hobbit de de Peter Jackson Sam 1 Déc - 19:46
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Sujet: Re: The Hobbit de de Peter Jackson Sam 1 Déc - 20:08
Sauf qu'on a pas été servi encore ciné... ton enthousiasme fait plaisir, tu ressents ce que tu ressents, mais meme si ca sent bon pour vous, je crois pas que il est bon que le mot soit celui que tu essayes de faire passer...
Je suis quasi persuadé que du fait meme que certains fans attendent trop le film, aussi bon possiblement que le film sera, il fera autant de déçus que Tdk rises. S'agit d'aller voir un film (qui a premiere vue nous branche énormément) pas de se monter la tete. M'enfin bon aprés chacun voit midi à sa porte au final
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Sujet: Re: The Hobbit de de Peter Jackson Sam 1 Déc - 20:10
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Bryan Singer @BryanSinger Just saw #Hobbit. Having some serious frame rate envy. Amazing and involving. Loved it! And @ianmckellen118, my friend, you are brilliant!
Bryan Singer @BryanSinger After #hobbit premier. Elijah and Hugo. Brilliant actors and awesome guys.
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Sujet: Re: The Hobbit de de Peter Jackson Sam 1 Déc - 20:11
Ba c'est nul tdkr y a pas le joker et ça à rien avoir avec Tdk
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Sujet: Re: The Hobbit de de Peter Jackson Sam 1 Déc - 20:44
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ais tout n'est pas rose en Terre du Milieu et le journaliste lâche le nom qui va tous nous mettre en alerte : Jar Jar Binks. Oh, mon dieu ! "Comme dans tout voyage inattendu, il y a quelques écueils sur le chemin. le plus notable est une intrigue secondaire qui implique un magicien du nom de Radagast the Brown (Sylvester McCoy), dont la bouffonnerie nous emmène parfois dans les abîmes du territoire de Jar Jar Binks."
Puis perso ça me dérange pas de voir des bouffonneries si c'est bien fait chez Jar Jar il avait une voix de merde et un dialogue et une façon de parler totalement débile et insupportable missa missa missa
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Sujet: Re: The Hobbit de de Peter Jackson Sam 1 Déc - 20:53
Un partie de la premiere au japon
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Sujet: Re: The Hobbit de de Peter Jackson Sam 1 Déc - 20:56
2eme partie
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Sujet: Re: The Hobbit de de Peter Jackson Sam 1 Déc - 21:21
Gimli a écrit:
Ba c'est nul tdkr y a pas le joker et ça à rien avoir avec Tdk
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Sujet: Re: The Hobbit de de Peter Jackson Dim 2 Déc - 2:12
Tayelore a écrit:
Sauf qu'on a pas été servi encore ciné... ton enthousiasme fait plaisir, tu ressents ce que tu ressents, mais meme si ca sent bon pour vous, je crois pas que il est bon que le mot soit celui que tu essayes de faire passer...
Je suis quasi persuadé que du fait meme que certains fans attendent trop le film, aussi bon possiblement que le film sera, il fera autant de déçus que Tdk rises. S'agit d'aller voir un film (qui a premiere vue nous branche énormément) pas de se monter la tete. M'enfin bon aprés chacun voit midi à sa porte au final
c'est pareil, moi j'arrive pas à m'emballer completement pour ce film. Je l'attend mais...je crains de ne pas ressentir le kiff absolu que j'ai ressenti quand j'ai vu La communauté de l'anneau enfin...on verra.
en revanche, je crains de m'emballer fortement pour Man of Steel faudra voir le trailer mais faudra que je calme mes ardeurs en tous les cas, je l'attend PLUS que The Hobbit !
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Sujet: Re: The Hobbit de de Peter Jackson Dim 2 Déc - 3:04
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0903624/
on dirait la guerre tdk vs godfather c'est vraiment n'importe quoi...
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Sujet: Re: The Hobbit de de Peter Jackson Dim 2 Déc - 13:03
Une critique qui vient d'IMDB le gars met 1/10
Bon après je sais pas si c'est sérieux ou pas...
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I have read the book and loved it. The warmth and intimacy that you experience when you embrace the characters, Bilbo, Gandalf, even Gollum, the landscapes of Middle Earth and the forest of Mordor, and events that take place in this story with your own personal imagination far, far surpass the second hand experience of watching it all through the imagination of another (in this case, of Peter Jackson). While the eye candy is overwhelming (I saw it in 3D) it saddens me greatly that the dependence people cultivate upon the act of watching a movie robs them of the opportunity of the truly wonderful experience for their heart and soul, that only comes by sitting down under a tree on a warm spring afternoon, or curled up in front of a fireplace while the wind howls outside your house, and letting yourself cozy up with your own imagination while Tolkien take you for a walk there and back again. Was the movie well made? Well, no better than, say "Avatar" - in terms of technical achievement that's a good comparison (color, CG and of course 3D) Sure. Is it worth seeing? Maybe, it depends. If you've read the book, then by all means, see the movie, it's not bad. But if you haven't read it, then don't PLEASE don't let this sort of movie convince you that you don't have to read "'cause I been there..." if that's what it does for you then it is worse than awful, but I had to give it one star. My comparison with Avatar deserves further mention. In the case of Avatar, there was no book that preceded or in any way "superceded" the movie. So in that case, it's simple eye candy (albeit, wrapped around a stupid story). The Hobbit (book) was and remains a masterpiece. Dare I make an analogy? "The Luncheon of the Boating Party" was one of Renoir's finest paintings. Now if someone came along and filled a gallery with cartoon like renderings of this painting, even if they were mind-blowingly colorful, in 3-D no less, with musical accompaniment thrown in, it would still be AWFUL. How can you simply "rate the cartoon" and conveniently forget about the REAL ART that lay behind it. Again, PLEASE, my precious, if you haven't read the book, please substitute these three hours of PJ's (granted) rich imagination with 15, 20, 25 hours (or more) of your own. You will NEVER regret it!
Sujet: Re: The Hobbit de de Peter Jackson Dim 2 Déc - 13:48
...je pense qu'il faut vous préparez a ce que des gens n'aiment pas dit tout le film(les gout et les couleur hein,comme pour tout les films),mais bon je pense que sur l'avis général plus de positif devrait en ressortir
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Sujet: Re: The Hobbit de de Peter Jackson Dim 2 Déc - 13:50
Ben je ne sais pas vraiment si cette personne a vu film on dirait plutôt un appel au boycott
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Sujet: Re: The Hobbit de de Peter Jackson Dim 2 Déc - 14:06
et les critiques presses, c'est pas demain ???
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Sujet: Re: The Hobbit de de Peter Jackson Dim 2 Déc - 14:15
Tommy a écrit:
et les critiques presses, c'est pas demain ???
Normalement ça commence demain oui
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Sujet: Re: The Hobbit de de Peter Jackson Dim 2 Déc - 14:16
yes
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Sujet: Re: The Hobbit de de Peter Jackson Mar 4 Déc - 12:34
Bon ben je me fie plus à Rottenomatoes En plus je le verrais en 24 fps le 48 fps doit fausser certains jugements
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Sujet: Re: The Hobbit de de Peter Jackson Mar 4 Déc - 12:38
MrCere reviews ‘The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey’
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DECEMBER 4, 2012 at 12:01 AM BY MRCERE - At the first public showing of a movie picture depicting a train coming toward the viewers, people scattered in alarm trying to get out of the way. Or so the story goes. Some will do the same with director Peter Jackson’s new film The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey.
The irony is that The Hobbit’s titular character, Bilbo Baggins, doesn’t like to take risks in a film that revels in them.
It’s visionary stuff, and Jackson is alone on the frontier with only James Cameron visible on the horizon. The first installment of The Hobbit trilogy is new cinema.
Instead of playing safe and comfortable in lower-risk financial zones, Jackson has pushed the boundaries with 3D, with 48 frames of film per second -– or the digital equivalent — flashing past viewers’ eyes instead of the traditional 24fps. It is definitely different.
The filter of the traditional look of cinema, what we are used to seeing in the dark, is gone. Forever? Consumers will ultimately decide but studios continue to churn out films in 3D despite anything but universal acclaim.
Here, Jackson has gone to such lengths to make the fantastic look real that for many the film will look unreal -– but only if viewers choose to see it in the director’s preferred way. Of the approximately 24,000 theaters that will display The Hobbit: AUJ, around 1,000 will have the technology to display it as it was shot — HFR 3D. But, for those 1,000, hang onto your arm rests, cinema has just leapt forward.
Bilbo Baggins (masterfully portrayed by Martin Freeman in a performance that will be lost amidst the eye-popping action sequences), as many readers will know, relishes his comfortable life in the cinematically familiar Bag End. He is interrupted by a gaggle of dwarves and a meddlesome wizard who for reasons he cannot himself explain, thinks Bilbo needs to travel with the dwarves.
All of this is familiar ground for readers of Tolkien’s original tale. And, as expected, the screenwriters (Fran Walsh, Phillipa Boyens, Guillermo del Toro and Peter Jackson) make great effort to up the stakes and ramp-up the tension.
People who haven’t been paying attention to the promotional lead-in campaign may be surprised to find that joining Freeman and Ian McKellen’s Gandalf as lead characters in the film is Richard Armitage as Thorin Oakenshield. It’s a role likely to launch Armitage, blessed with an already-fervent fanbase, masculine good looks, and ample ability, into the stratosphere. The character is deeply scarred and tragic. Thorin gives the children’s tale a Shakespearean disaster angle and the film makes the most of it in in ways that may not surprise viewers but will nevertheless delight them.
Andy Serkis returns to work his performance-capture magic as Gollum, and Jackson and his actors reach the peak of performance and technical … well … wizardry in a scene that is the film’s best. Despite being dialog-heavy, it is cinematic magic.
So Bilbo, content to play it safe in a movie that most definitely isn’t, is joined by all these dwarves who despite excellent design and characterization, just don’t have enough room in the movie. Considering Jackson’s Middle-earth legacy, many viewers will immediately begin pondering extended editions and hope for more from these characters.
Then -– especially if they see it in 48 fps -– they’ll want to schedule another viewing. This writer’s initial reaction to the film was wanting to see it again immediately. As of this writing, that has been impossible. Fans, and those who care about film as an art form (and perhaps as a science) will want to view The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey in both its incredibly clear new format and as a traditional film.
Others, the Bilbo Baggins of the world, are perhaps better advised to simply see the film as they saw The Lord of the Rings. They will be thrilled with adventure and the interplay of now-familiar movie characters playing again inside the incredible landscapes of Middle-earth. Peering deeper into dwarven culture will come with a (pun-intended) deep satisfaction and they will be thrilled, despite some dark days for fans, back in a delightful rendition of Jackson’s Middle-earth..
It goes without saying that not everybody will like everything. Setting aside technology for a moment, sections of the film that delight some will frustrate others.
In one place Gandalf reuses a familiar story-telling device. For some that will hearken back to the familiar. For others it will seem like a rehash. There are a handful of such moments. The 100% CGI orc Azog may feel cartoon despite (or because of) his technical perfection; he is no Gollum. But putting aside the quibbles, Jackson has delivered a tightly paced action flick that is rollicking fun. He has captured again the magic of Tolkien’s world with his own stylistic, cinematic stamp.
Radagast the Brown is a delight and injects some of the fringe legends of Tolkien’s own hand and some of the lighter tone of the source material into the sometimes dangerously heavy Middle-earth. There is the expanded Goblin Town with its madcap action – more jolly than peilous – which takes license with underground kingdoms. But amidst all this fun we are tossed a dozen decapitations as well creating a puzzle for some parents and sensitive younger viewers. Cate Blanchett casts her graceful spell along with the most welcome Christopher Lee and appropriate the slightly less stressed Elrond from Hugo Weaving, iconic in his own right.
The dead-on casting with exemplary performances from the leads as well as those in small roles make the fantasy feel real more than any technician can -– and the technicians on this film are world-class here. And yes, fantasy films can have exemplary performances and actors selling the fantastic as the everyday, have achieved high-craft in their art. Technically masterful, this adaptation of a classic children’s tale is grand and glorious cinema that is indeed lighter than its Rings cousin but also with nasty battle elements.
What’s more, any discussion about the need for three films or the making the decision to do so based on anything but storytelling merits couldn’t be more incinerated if Smaug himself engulfed the conversation in dragon’s fire. The case for three films is settled.
But being first is difficult. Like Ebay selling its first item in 1995 (a laser pointer if you must know) new things can take a while to catch on. The lion’s share of reviews are going to address the step forward in display technology (including this one!) but the story will sink or swim because of the characters, their situations and the craft with which they are brought to life.
Viewers need to evaluate: Are they Bilbos? Do they want safe, familiar cinema or do they want to go on an adventure at the theater? The comparison isn’t mine originally but I like best the thought that somebody has taken the window out and now we are not looking through the filter of film but looking at the real world. It will take some adjusting.
Will you like it? Well, do you embrace change? Can your entertainment tastes evolve? This is like nothing you have ever seen and it will jar not just your eyes but your brain. The dragon slayers will revel in the new and the adventure. Not every note will ring true for every viewer but whatever else, this movie is about fun and adventure.
And (something that will obviously delight the studio) the real answer to this riddle is that this is a film that cries out to be seen in both formats and compared by the viewer. It is entertaining entertainment but it is also a landmark of technology and a test of crowd behavior. I agree with Jackson and Cameron; this is the future.
Whatever the public and critics conclude, Jackson and his team must be admired for operating on wires high above the crowd with no net or safety line with fearlessness and passion. As for me, I will take that at my cinema experience every time over another action film content to play it safe.
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Sujet: Re: The Hobbit de de Peter Jackson Mar 4 Déc - 12:39
Staffer Garfemaio reviews The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey
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DECEMBER 4, 2012 at 12:01 AM BY GARFEIMAO - TheOneRing.net staffer Garfeimao and long-time TORn friend Nancy Steinman were able to secure tickets to the World Premiere of The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey. Here are Garfeimao’s largely spoiler-free thoughts on what she saw.
I am not here to review the technology, this is just going to be a short and sweet commentary on the movie. Martin Freeman is a joy to watch inhabit the role of Bilbo Baggins: you feel everything he feels, and that is all those emotions you read about in the book. Fear, curiosity, courage, homesickness and that sense that he has bitten off more than he can chew.
There are whole chunks of dialogue lifted directly from the book, you will recognize it throughout the film, I had to restrain myself from cheering during at least one of these lines, won’t say which one just yet.
Gandalf is Gandalf, the slightly grumpy, sometimes playful Gandalf the Grey we met 11 years ago is back.
And Richard Armitage as Thorin and Ken Stott as Balin, in particular, shine in their respective roles. You will feel you are in the presence of a King without a Throne. But the kudos really have to go to Andy Serkis as Gollum and Martin’s Bilbo.
The Riddles in the Dark will have you on the edge of you seat, even though you know exactly what happens. It is masterfully delivered, you may even cry (yes, one of many spots I teared up at).
To be honest, yes there are other bits that are a bit confusing and may feel misplaced, but I will want to watch it a second time before I pass final judgement on this film. I loved the ending, it is rather awesome.
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Sujet: Re: The Hobbit de de Peter Jackson Mar 4 Déc - 12:41
Gimli a écrit:
Bon ben je me fie plus à Rottenomatoes En plus je le verrais en 24 fps le 48 fps doit fausser certains jugements